Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/27/2004 03:50 PM House L&C

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HB 555-OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING FEES AND RECEIPTS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  555,   "An  Act  relating  to  occupational                                                               
licensing fees and receipts."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0085                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RICK  URION,   Director,  Division  of   Occupational  Licensing,                                                               
Department of  Community & Economic Development  (DCED), reminded                                                               
the committee  that the division  charges fees based on  the cost                                                               
to regulate the profession.   One of the largest costs associated                                                               
with the licensing programs are  disciplinary actions.  Until two                                                               
years  ago the  fines  collected from  disciplinary actions  were                                                               
placed in  the funds used to  offset the costs of  the particular                                                               
profession.  This legislation merely  allows the division to take                                                               
the  fines  collected from  various  disciplinary  actions to  be                                                               
credited  to that  profession  in  order to  offset  the cost  of                                                               
collection.   Mr.  Urion  noted that  the  [collection of  fines]                                                               
averages about $67,000 a year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0233                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG recalled that  AS 08.01.065 requires that                                                               
all   professions   be   self-supporting,  and   therefore   this                                                               
legislation  merely  allows  the  fines  to  be  credited  toward                                                               
licensure.   Representative Rokeberg also recalled  that a recent                                                               
Real Estate Commission case went  to major hearings, and inquired                                                               
as to the cost of such.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  URION said  that  he didn't  know the  exact  cost, but  the                                                               
particular   case  with   the  Real   Estate  Commission   was  a                                                               
considerable sum.   He related  that the fine itself  was $25,000                                                               
and agreed  with Representative  Rokeberg that  the cost  [of the                                                               
disciplinary  process]  could  be  over  $100,000.    In  further                                                               
response  to Representative  Rokeberg, Mr.  Urion confirmed  that                                                               
currently the  fine would have to  be placed in the  general fund                                                               
rather  than go  toward  the licensure  fees,  and therefore  the                                                               
licensees would have  to pick up the cost  of that [disciplinary]                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0369                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  asked  if  there are  any  boards  or                                                               
commissions in which  the state has a vested  interest in having,                                                               
but can't pay for themselves.  He  also asked if there has been a                                                               
fine  levied  against  a  board or  commission,  which  was  cost                                                               
prohibitive  and couldn't  be passed  on  to the  members of  the                                                               
profession.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. URION said that the  division's purpose is public protection.                                                               
He  confirmed that  there have  been some  expensive disciplinary                                                               
actions, which have caused licensure fees to double.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  reiterated   his  question  regarding                                                               
whether  expensive   disciplinary  actions  have  been   so  cost                                                               
prohibitive  that the  members of  a  profession couldn't  afford                                                               
[the licensure fees] and left the profession.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. URION explained  that the division doesn't  increase the fees                                                               
to a  point at  which folks  decide to  leave the  profession, an                                                               
incremental  approach  over a  period  of  years  is taken.    He                                                               
mentioned the possibility of a  proposal next session to create a                                                               
pool to address those large [fee increases].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0535                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM moved to report  HB 555 out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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